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Time For A New Product

 I don't know how many ex Harry Potter Fans there are in the world caused by the extremely disappointing Deathly Hallows, but it seems clear to me that it is time for a New Product to replace Harry Potter in the Witch and Wizard fantasy genre.  I am not an author.  I don't read fanfiction, and I'm not making this post to advertize or suggest any particular book or series.  I am just curious how many ex Harry Potter fans are still around reading fanfiction and just waiting to go back on the Harry Potter fansites and compare the idiotic Harry Potter plot in Deathly Hallows to a more realistic and reasonable witch and wizard plotline.


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29th Jul, 2008 03:18 (UTC)
LOL! If you found you had that much antipathy to Harry at first meeting, alas, I doubt he'd grow on you if you were to give him another airing or two. I do totally agree that Storm Front has a lot of first novel problems, and the character of Dresden didn't really start to gel for me until around the 3rd novel. That being said, I sort of like noir-style gumshoes who aren't that bright and talk tough because they're scared out of their minds, anyway, so I could wait for the character to come clearer in subsequent novels w/o being too turned off from the outset. But even in his clearest incarnations, Harry is still more or less the same abrasive, somewhat dorky guy with enormously old-fashioned attitudes regarding just about everything (including gender) so he'll never be everyone's cup of tea. And maybe I'm easy to please regarding snark - but when someone asked Harry why he'd made magical hash out of some hideous demon-monster-thingy that beat the living snot out of him first, and he replied "I didn't like his hat" - I nearly laughed my guts up.

If you did decide to give Ol' Harry another go, maybe try Summer Knight; it's one of my favorites in the series. Still, it's no fun to read a first-person series from the POV of a main character you just don't like, so I dunno if the improved quality of the later novels would be enough to offset that for you.

I REALLY need to read some Gaiman, btw. I'm much more a crime-drama, suspense novel, police procedural and straight horror fan, so both the wizard Harrys were a little bit of a departure from my usual reading tastes. But I hear nothing but great things about Gaiman so I definitely need to give your rec a try. Would you say this The Books of Magic is a good choice for an introduction to Gaiman's work?
29th Jul, 2008 04:41 (UTC)
Books of Magic is a comic book/graphic novel series; that may be something to keep in mind before you settle on it. (For some reason, I can never get myself past the first volume of any given comic collection.) I'm also not sure how long Gaiman actively wrote it.
In terms of straight-up reading material, Neverwhere or Anansi Boys might be closer to what you're after (also American Gods, but that's a bit of a chewy read). And to definitely feed the crime-drama/horror, Google around and track down the PDF of "A Study in Emerald." It's sort of Sherlock Holmes meets Lovecraft, but noooot exactly, and the PDF's a free download.
Also also, Good Omens; everyone needs a merry little tale about Armageddon.

(Sorry for butting in, but. XD)
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30th Jul, 2008 01:06 (UTC)
Ah, thanks for the details and opinion on Gaiman’s work, both to winterfox and minkhollow. Once you both mentioned the titles, I recalled that I actually had read Neverwhere and Good Omens, so it appears I had more of a start with Gaiman than I’d remembered. Good Omens was very enjoyable, IMO, and I’ll add a yea vote for that one, but I only have a vague recollection of Neverwhere (mainly I recall those two awful guys – Mr. Crouch and Mr. … Valdemar? Vandemar? Am I thinking of the right novel?). Maybe my vague memory serves as an illustration of winterfox’s point about bland protagonists in some of Gaiman’s works?

As to Harry Dresden, I’m still in the YAY camp, myself. For me, these novels are fun, solidly-written escapist fare with a likeable hero, and I do recommend them. But perhaps my taste is less discriminating than that of others, so those thinking about giving Jim Butcher and Harry Dresden a try can take that into account. Nice that we have a variety of responses to the same books in this thread too, makes it interesting.

Also, just remembered, though the Dresden novels are urban-fantasy, I understand Butcher also has a more traditional sword-and-sorcery fantasy series going too. I haven’t read any of them myself, not my thing, but I've heard those who do enjoy the Dresden series mentioning that they like these as well. “Codex Alera” or something like that is the series title.

The idea of commercial successors to HP is interesting as well. I'm thinking maybe Stephenie Meyers' publishers are trying to position the Twilight series in that spot? I personally don't think anything is going to equal the freakish commercial success of HP for some time, but I'm sure publishers would love to put their fingers on the next big thing if it were possible to predict.


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